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                and self-identity is indeed very complex. They grapple with the
                intractable problem of affiliating with the Other. The policies
                of partition and exclusion, of late become a passion with
                politicians, disconcerts them a lot. The distinction they draw
                between the politician and the artist, musician and writer by
                implication, is very apt. The politician dissolves the conflict
                to serve his interest. Poised at the extremes, the artist
                grapples with all the intricacies to achieve some accord between
                them. Both hold that the failure to resolve the Palestine
                imbroglio rests with the absence of imagination from the ambit
                of negotiations.
 Now that their
                conversation shifts to music, the inner life of the musician,
                his engagement with history, politics and society, they find the
                utter lack of it in atonality. Making Adorno's perception as his
                own, Said holds that musician's mediation with society, so
                creative till Beethoven and in him with amazing profundity, is
                no more true of musical composition and performance. The problem
                of home again crops up. Barenboim holds that "creating a
                sense of home, going to an unknown territory and then returning,
                was Beethoven's forte." At this stage, they have some words
                to spare for the Oslo Accord. Employing musical terminology,
                Barenboim finds it failing due to a discord between speed and
                tempo. In the literary diction of Said, "it was texts
                written down, that did not conform adequately to the reality of
                the situation." It is their
                intellectual and artistic orientation that then claims their
                attention. Pinpointing his role as a professor of literature,
                Said explains how he seeks to go beyond technique and expertise
                to literature's affinity with society, history, politics and
                culture. He arrived at this position without much help from his
                teachers. So he is always disposed to stand against power and
                authority. Barenboim's trajectory of growth is different. He
                grew up under the great influence of his father who taught him
                "to put the extremes together, not necessarily by
                diminishing the extremity of each one but to form the art of
                transition." To play some composition for the sake of it is
                the worst crime in his eyes. In a parallel vein, Said finds the
                teacher a criminal if instead of enhancing the curiosity, he
                resorts to their indoctrination. After uncovering the
                intricacies, reading and writing involve on the one hand and
                composing and performing on the other, they reach a consensus in
                which paradoxes and parallels cohere at the same time. Their discussion
                of Richard Wagner and Beethoven is very erudite but in no way
                does it turn hermetic. They find Wagner a cult figure for
                reasons within and without his musical personality. Due to the
                excessive emphasis he put upon acoustics, magnitude and
                flamboyance, authoritarianism did mark his compositions and
                performances. In no way can it be termed as anti-Semitic. So the
                authorities in Israel were monstrously authoritarian in
                restricting the performances of his compositions. However, their
                highest appreciation and deepest regard is reserved for
                Beethoven. For Barenboim, he was "completely a
                musician." Only through music would he make sense of all
                the turmoil of life. According to Said, it was ethics, "the
                fullest realization of what is contained in music" that
                formed a way of life for him. To resolve the Palestine
                imbroglio, a mind of his kind is required who can bring to bear
                upon it the qualities of memory, imagination, creativity and
                wonder. Towards the end of
                Introduction, Said has this to say: "It is in the nature of
                conversation at its best to be engrossing for everyone, as well
                as to take even the speaker by surprise." This, the book
                has in ample measure. At the same time, it has more to enhance,
                what Said fondly called, emergent thinking.
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